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5th Sep 2012, 1:18 PM
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5th Sep 2012, 1:18 PM
J2383
I think I've single-handedly won the election for Ron Paul with this.

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7th Sep 2012, 12:44 PM
The Weasel
Heh, I followed Ron Paul for a long time. On the surface he seems a GREAT guy... Until you really dive into his policy's, when you realise he is quite insane.

Yeah, he gets votes from guys like us due to his liberal stance on drugs. But have a look at what he would do to schools and other public services. I really think most Ron Paul supporters are jumping on the liberal bandwagon without understanding his ideology.

Have a read of some of the articles on the Daily Bell, you might be in for a shock. If you want no public education and schools only for rich kids, go ahead and vote for him. To be honest, I'm a democrat supporter, but if it were Romney or Paul, I'd vote for Ro... well no I think I'd leave the country if that were the choice, but hey I'm British, so I have my own politics to put up with. But dude, please please actually look into his ideology. I think your in for a shock at how batshit insane the guy really is.
7th Sep 2012, 5:57 PM
J2383
The thing people don't fully realize is that he's not against those things, just at a federal level. The responsibility for public education and most of the other things people complain about would be shifted to the state level; giving individual states more power to cater to its citizens' needs and wants. Also, I was homeschooled for 12 years, not a huge fan of public education...:D
8th Sep 2012, 10:18 AM
The Weasel
Oh yes, your quite correct Jack. But having seen how that plays out in the UK with university education I can see that it does not work, all it does is lead to inequality. This is especially scary in the USA. If we extrapolate to the final conclusion, it leads to certain states having e.g. Morman only schools. This is incredibly scary. If your happy for the half your populous to be taught only creationism. But you can see where this is pushing America currently. It would be downward spiral to an uneducated and ignorant population, leading your country to be living half in the medieval ages. The real debate here is between centralized power and state power, which is important due to the makeup of the USA but if you really believe in equality for all education has to be one of those things that is centrally controlled. Yeah, its hard to draw the line between what should be state controlled and what should be federally controlled. I agree that the public school system is woeful in the US, but this can be managed. Corruption seems rampant in your school system, I could cite many examples, but I am sure you are already aware of them. Perhaps that is what should be addressed first. The privatization of your prison system has lead to incredibly scary stories coming from America, such as judges being bribed to put teenagers in care institutions. As a kid I saw America as the land of the free but now my view is the land of the ignorant and oppressed. Worse is the portrayal of Europe as a socialist/communist state to push the parties political agendas. You should come visit us sometime, see if the image you are shown of us is really true, I'd be happy to show you around.

You seem a reasonable guy, so I hope you don't take this as any kind of personal attack, its certainly not intended to be, I just fear for your country as I see it spiral down into ignorance and infighting.
8th Sep 2012, 5:31 PM
J2383
You would have to do more than present facts and opinions like a reasonable adult to make me think you're attacking me personally. If you're trying to troll me, you're either the greatest or worst troll I've ever encountered.

I agree with you in a lot of ways. I just want to see the federal government's power throttled significantly, I think we as both a country and to a degree the world have gotten this mentality that the government is supposed to take care of you constantly and all that jazz. I see more power as more potential for corruption and misuse of that power. However I recognize that there ARE some instances in which centralization is just going to work better.