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Comic 427 - Humor - Part 2

13th May 2013, 8:07 AM
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13th May 2013, 8:07 AM
J2383
Anyone who can tell me where the phrase "I do what I do...etc" will be given my unending praise, I know for a fact I didn't come up with that line; but I cannot for the life of me find it anywhere to give credit where it is due. I just happen to really like the phrase, especially in this kind of context.

I toyed with the idea of given a much longer response, but I think that between my comment Friday, and what I said during the actual argument(or whatever it was) there really is nothing more to be said here. Some may call this page petty, to which I respond by point out that it is insanely petty(you might say it's psychotically petty). Sometimes, it's best to fight fire with water, but today I chose to fight fire with fire instead; in part as satire of their attitude, but mostly because the whole situation genuinely pissed me off in a way that doesn't usually happen. I don't like having conversations cut short or people attempting to guilt trip me into apologizing because I made other people slightly uncomfortable. I love to have long, in-depth conversations about why practices and ideas that I find atrocious might be no better than my own; I can separate myself from the conversation, and walk away neither uncomfortable nor feeling the need to embrace those practices as my own. I often express respect for viewpoints that are absolutely horrifying, simply because it takes balls to openly hold those viewpoints.

To immediately attack a person who makes you uncomfortable by expressing an idea(either seriously or jokingly) you cut yourself off from so many fascinating viewpoints and turn your entire life into a massive circle-jerk between you and the people who agree with you that you've surrounded yourself with. Had I not been almost immediately dismissed I could have expressed my viewpoint in a more clear manner, but instead the conversation was cut short; and I don't blame the gentleman asked me to stop, he is a man whom I respect to some degree, but I do blame those who got so upset over such a little thing that they couldn't accept the possibility of just letting it go without being upset about it that they would both lunge at me for it and also dismiss my views as backwards and unacceptable.



Two other things: I think this is going to be my new go-to response when people try to tell me I 'crossed the line' and this video has amused me greatly over the past few days: Horse Outside

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14th May 2013, 12:21 AM
Ghastmask Zombie
Where was this "lynch mob" formed? I don't doubt its existence, but I'm definitely not seeing it. I cannot find a large enough group of people responding to any of this to call it a "mob" of any sort. I'm sure I'm missing something (as I often do) and I'd be quite grateful if you'd clear it up for me.
14th May 2013, 1:23 AM
J2383
Lynch mob, was an attempted comedic exaggeration on my part, clearly one that fell flatter than I intended. The group did, however, pounce on me in the short time the conversation was permitted to last, that's more what I was trying to convey.
14th May 2013, 11:28 PM
Ghastmask Zombie
Well, I find jokes fall flat for me far more often than for most, so I'm probably not a good gauge for that. Though, I'd like to say I agree with you here. Those who can be upset by an honest joke that allegedly "went too far" won't last one minute against the countless people actually trying to piss them off. And though I have no delusions that I can decipher the workings of your mind from what you have shown in a webcomic, I have definitely gotten the impression that if and when you "cross the line," it will be very clear that you have done so. No offense intended. I don't know if any offense could be taken from that, but I'd rather be clear and not take that chance. And apologies for the long comments, though they do seem common around here.
23rd May 2013, 12:57 AM
No One Of Consequence
@J2383
I find the contrast / juxtaposition of your comment above and your sentiment in "Comic 404 - Caution: Thinking Ahead" interesting.

I agree with line crossing sentiment. If I am trying to upset you you will be in no doubt about it - so why not relax a bit?
23rd May 2013, 1:42 AM
J2383
@NOOC

Yeah, I suspected that at least one person to notice the strange flip between the two; I can offer no wholly rational explanation for the completely opposite opinions expressed in each. I still stand by both as being valid viewpoints, I think that a large part is context. In the right context the line doesn't exist; just as I wouldn't make a joke about death at a funeral, I also would not joke about suicide with a friend who was considering it.

I think a large part of the seeming disparity is that things that go on in my life bring these opinions to the forefront of my mind and then I convey them in a general context with little to no explanation as to WHY I'm thinking about them; and then something like this happens where the in the specific instances that are happening in my life my viewpoints make perfect sense, but in the generalized way I expressed them the ideas contradict one another.
26th May 2013, 6:35 PM
No One Of Consequence
I agree that it is all about context.
An example of how the context changes what is considered offensive or not, is who gets to use the "N" word / tell jokes about ethnic group XYZ.